Convertor For 2001 Honda Odyssey Ex-nav? Options

[DBJELLQU]

First, let me state that I tried this question with the OdyClub forum first: http://www.odyclub.com/forums/showthread.p...4026#post234026

They essentially recommended that either the PIE HON98-AUX or the Blitzsafe (assuming Blitzsafe HON/AUX DMX V.1 ) would work. The guys there are great (both knowledgable and helpful)..

OdyClub members have tried the Blitzsafe and say it works:
http://www.odyclub.com/forums/showthread.p...ight=EX+Nav+PIE. Many have purchased from Logjam, as I intend to.

On the other hand, when you try either http://www.logjamelectronics.com/piehon98aux.html or http://www.logjamelectronics.com/blitzhonauxdmxv1.html, you are instructed to not use this with Navigation: "NOT compatible the vehicles with factory navigation systems. For vehicles with factory navigation systems, click HERE."

You are instructed to go here:
Blitzsafe HON/SNY ITI V.2 2003-2004
http://www.logjamelectronics.com/blitzhonsnyitiv2.html

Of course, there are now 2 additional concerns.

#1 The 2001 Odyssey is not listed. Model years applicable to this part start in 2003.

#2 This device is being pulled from the market and replaced in 06/2005

LETS END THE CONFUSION

Back at the OdyClub (thread above), the claim is that all Odyssey with Navigation are the same in the '99-'04 model years. Would this part not work in my '01?

What is actually different between the NAV-specific Blitzsafe Honda convertor and the regular Honda convertor? I would like to know WHY the regular convertor isn't recommended. If some people apparently have a standard aux convertor working, what does Logjam/PIE/Blitzsafe say is not compatible or not completely working correctly?

If the "Blitzsafe HON/SNY ITI V.2" is changing parts, can I get some more info and an ETA? I'm taking a long family-vacation road-trip in a few weeks, and I need my iRiver H340 MP3 player hooked up and running by them.

Finally, please make a recommendation on what I should order from Logjam.

[Logjam Tech Support]

OK, I will try to address every issue and question. First, for your '01 Odyssey, the appropriate device that would have the correct connector and plug into your factory radio is either the P.I.E. HON98-AUX or the Blitzsafe HON/AUX DMX V.1. Either device will work IF your '01 Odyssey did not have the navigation option. But because you have the navigation option, neither device will work and here's why.

The navigation option plugs into the same connector in the rear of the radio that the auxiliary input converter would plug into. Consequently, to connect the aux in converter, you will need to unplug the navigation, rendering the radio inoperable. With the Blitzsafe HON/SNY ITI V.2 device [Update 03/14/06 - this device no longer available from Blitzsafe], Blitzsafe altered the cable to include a 'Y' cable that allows you keep the navigation plugged in at the same time as the auxiliary input converter is plugged in. This can be done because the navigation option on the '04 & '05 models uses only 3 of the 12-pin connector and it is 3 pins that are not used with the auxiliary input converter. It is my understanding that on the earlier model year vehicles with navigation, there are more pins in the 12-pin connector used in the nav option and some of the used pins are those that would be shared with the aux in converter and therefore, a 'Y" connector on the earlier nav options is not possible. So it is not something that can be over come by altering the interface or the cabling.

Consequently, the bottom line is with your '01 Odyssey with navigation, We're sorry to say there is no adapter or interface that we know of that will work in your vehicle.

[DBJELLQU]

Thank you for the detailed response. Your explanation does explain why no solution 'should' work in my vehicle.

I'm not one to 'toss in the towel'. Can we be sure your info is absolutely correct? The guys at OdyClub seemed fairly adamant about the basic adapter working.

Per your site (http://www.logjamelectronics.com/piehon98aux.html), "Factory radio must have an unused 14-pin rectangular connector socket at the rear of the radio." What you are, in effect, saying is that the Navigation Option is already running into this Aux Connection, thus preventing use by any other accessory, unless you want to unplug the Nav Opt. Correct?

Sounds awful. Who would give up their $2K Nav Opt to play some MP3s?

The guys at OdyClub are saying "that's not true". If you turn the radio around you'll see that the Aux connector is "totally open".

Well somebody has to be right and somebody has to be wrong. I hate to tear apart the dash until I have parts in hand...but in this case I feel justified. I ran home at lunchtime and did just that.

Lo and behold, I found a completely open 14-pin connector at the rear. Needless to say, I placed an order with Logjam Electronics for the PIE HON98-AUX immediately. If you spot my order today, please see what you can do to get it on the road. It would be nice to have it by this coming Fathers Day weekend for an install. With the center console removed, I am missing hazard lights, interior lights, and rear a/c.

Of course, this doesn't prove that the HON98-AUX will work for me, but I feel the odds now are greatly in my favor. I'll post my final results here either way.

I don't know if this info will help anybody else. I have a 2001 Honda Odyssey EX-Nav. On the bottom sticker of my radio, I have Model No. 39100-S0X-A210, Ref No. CQ-JH8062Z, and Serial No. M00B501521. There is also a M4F429020A embossed on the rear plate of radio. There are 2 adjacent connectors at the rear of the radio, plus the antenna. One connector has 20-pins, and this is being used. The other connector is 14-pins, and this is open (nothing connected). I'm hoping that open means 'good to go' for Aux.

[DBJELLQU]

I'm now posting my final results.

IT WORKED PERFECTLY!!!!!

My package arrived on Friday, which was a very nice 3-day turnaround on ground service. My console was already open. I purposely had left only 2 of the original 6 screws in place for the Nav/Radio assembly to come back out.

My installation - I removed the Nav/Radio assembly again, plugged the 14-pin connector from the HON98-AUX to the rear of the radio, tied the ground wire back to a screw on the radio chassis, and connected the optional 35RCA6MM cable to the HON98-AUX. I used a few tabs of double-stick tape to set the HON98-AUX in the cavity below the radio, and easily poked the other end of the 35RCA6MM cable over to the glovebox. I plugged my MP3 player into the 35RCA6MM cable, set it running, tossed it back into the glovebox, and closed it up. I tied the Nav/Radio assembly back with all 6 screws. My Odyssey console had 3 connectors to reconnect (Hazard, Int Lights, and Rear A/C control) and then the console just snaps back into place. Putting all of this back together took less than 5 minutes.

The MP3 player shows from the radio as a CD-Changer device. It's a simple audio interconnect between devices (no control operations). It's all I wanted and needed. Control of the MP3 player is from the player itself.

I tried every combination of radio input (AM, FM-1, FM2, CD, MP3) together with the Nav option, and everything works as before. The Nav Voice cuts in, as needed.

What is left to say? I'm another satisfied LogJam customer.

I do have one question. Since the manufacturer info on the HON98-AUX is obviously incorrect with respect to a 2001 Honda Odyssey EX-NAV, how will you be advising your customers in the future? I can tell that LogJam prides itself on providing good support/service to its customers. Do you think it may be possible to revise the compatibility guides on your website? Maybe you can add something like "LogJam Customers have reported success with other model cars not listed by manufacturer. The requirement is the open 14-pin connector. Please search our forums or contact Technical Support for further details."

[Logjam Tech Support]

"........Do you think it may be possible to revise the compatibility guides on your website?  Maybe you can add something like "LogJam Customers have reported success with other model cars not listed by manufacturer.  The requirement is the open 14-pin connector.  Please search our forums or contact Technical Support for further details."

I couldn't have said it any better myself. We will be contacting P.I.E. tech support to see if they have had other installs similiar to yours and completely update all our information. P.I.E. tech support also prides itself for their technical support and like Logjam Electronics, will want to be sure all information is accurate.

Thanks again for a great post and taking the time to share your experience with others.

[Guest]

Just as a side note -

Regarding the use of the Aux bus on Honda vehicles for navi, the wiring in some vehicles were revised so that the aux connector is available even if you have navi.

Between 03 and 04 Accord for example, the wiring changed so that the extra plug for navi is not needed in the 04.

[gyoshi02]

hello,
Will this BlitzSafe HON/AUX DMX V.1 work with a 2004 Honda Odyssey w/Factory Deck, and Factory Navigation system.

Will the audio from the Navigation still work after installing this device?
thanks,

[Logjam Tech Support]

The HON/AUX DMX V.1 is compatible with the '04 Odyssey. But, in the title of this post, you say an '01 Odyssey, which it is also compatible with the '01 Odyssey. However, whether it is an '01 or an '04, in order to work with the HON/AUX DMX V.1, the factory radio must have an empty 14-pin connector at the rear of the radio.